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by R4di4tion
This was one of the first and most influential texts on hacking I ever read. Copied here, because it seems to be no longer available from mc2.nu, which is where I originally found it.
This article is a good start - but you have to understand, learning to hack is not like learning a language - it's not just a case of picking up a textbook and when you reach the end you're done. It's more like learning to play a musical instrument, or learning to paint. You'll develop your own style over a long period of time - you'll never finish learning how to hack.
To be a hacker you need a few skills to start with
Are you a computer whizz? Are you smart? Do you like puzzles, codes, logic games? Do you have patience?
If not, then hacking really isn't something you'll enjoy. Sure, there are programs around the net that'll try to hack stuff for you, but that's not the point of hacking. The point of hacking is not in breaking into another computer - it's not really about the end goal, it's about the journey, the intellectual challenge.
Anyway, here's the original article:
You stay up all night on the PC typing and typing. No, you're not hacking. You're begging someone on IRC to teach you how to hack! Let's look at the facts:
- You're a luser and you're annoying. No one likes you if you ask others how to hack without taking the least amount of initiative.
- You're not worthy of any title even resembling hacker, cracker, phreaker, etc., so don't go around calling yourself that! The more you do, the less likely you are to find someone willing to teach you how to hack (which is an infinitesimal chance, any way).
- You're wasting your time (if you couldn't infer that in the first place). Many real hackers (not those shitty script kiddies) spend all their insomniac hours reading and, yes even, HACKING! (Hacking doesn't necessarily (but usually does) mean breaking into another system. It could mean just working on your own system, BUT NOT WINDOWS '9x (unless you're doing some really menacing registry shit, in which case, you're kind of cool).)
You're probably thinking, "Then what should I do. If no one's going to help me, how can I learn to hack?" Have you ever tried READING (I assume this far that you are literate). Read anything and everything you can get your hands on! I recommend hitting a computer store and looking for discount books (books that are usually out of date, but so are a lot of the systems on the 'net, so they're still relevant!). You'll be surprised what you can learn from a book even when you're paying a dollar for every hundred pages. I recommend the following books to start off with:
- Maximum Security I or II: this is not a guide to hacking, despite what you might have heard, but you can get enough info to learn the basics of how hackers hack! (Isn't that more fun than being lamed, email bombed, and kicked off IRC).
- Practical Unix and Internet Security (Sec. Edition): This is mostly a book about how to secure Unix (if you don't know what Unix is, either shoot yourself now, or read O'Reilly's Learning the Unix OS), but half of learning to hack is learning a system from the inside out. How can you expect to hack a site (w/o using a kiddie script, which i must restate, is NOT hacking) if you don't know how to use the system?!
- Linux Unleashed/Red Hat Linux Unleashed: these books are kind of cool. First of all, they come with Red Hat Linux (*sigh*, just go to www.linux.org and read everything there) 5.1 and 5.2 respectively (if you get the newest versions of the book, which you should). Read everything you can from it.
- Sendmail in a nutshell: This is only after you read everything else. Sendmail, for those of you who still don't know, is a program that sends mail. It sounds stupid, but this is a buggy program, and usually is the avenue of attack many hackers take because of it's vulnerabilities.
- TCP/IP Blueprints: this will clear up a lot of things concerning TCP/IP.
- TCP/IP Administration: haven't read it, but can't wait to! (I've been bogged down by a lot of other REAL computer stuff).
After you've read them all, re-read them! Trust me, you gain a ton of information the second time you read them just as you gain perspicacity the second time through a movie with a twisted plot.
Then, read a ton of RFCs. RFCs are Request for Comments by the people who practically shaped the Internet. Here is a good list of RFCs (the books above give about the same list):
- RFC0760 - DoD Standard Internet Protocol
- RFC0792 - Internet Control Message Protocol
- RFC0819 - The Domain Naming Convention for Internet User Applications
- RFC0821 - Simple Mail Transfer Protocol
- RFC0822 - Standard for the Format of ARPA Internet Text Messages
- RFC0976 - UUCP Mail Interchange Format Standard
- RFC1123 - Requirements for Internet Hosts -- Applications and Support
- RFC1135 - The Helminthiasis of the Internet (Morris Worm)
- RFC1244 - Site Security Handbook
- RFC1521 - MIME (Multipurpose Internet Email Extensions) Part One
- RFC1522 - MIME (Multipurpose Internet Email Extensions) Part Two
- RFC1651 - SMTP Service Extensions
- RFC1652 - SMTP Service Extension for 8bit-MIMEtransport
- RFC1652 - SMTP Service Extension for Message Size Declaration
- RFC1675 - Security Concerns for IPng
- RFC1704 - On Internet Authentication
- RFC1739 - A Primer On Internet and TCP/IP Tools
- RFC1750 - Randomness Recommendations for Security
- RFC1825 - Security Architecture for the Internet Protocol
- RFC1891 - SMTP Service Extension for Delivery Status Notifications
- RFC1892 - The Multipart/Report Content Type for the Reporting of Mail System Administrative Messages
- RFC1893 - Enhanced Mail System Status Codes
- RFC1894 - An Extensible Message Format for Delivery Status Notifications
- RFC1918 - Address Allocation for Private Internets
- RFC1920 - Internet Official Protocol Standards
- Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days: the name says it all
- Learning Perl: an AMAZING book on learning Perl
- Programming Perl: the next step after Learning Perl
- Perl Cookbook: the next step after Programming Perl
- Core Java (Volume I & II): these books are by the makers of Java. Java is a really cool language to say the least, but you should at least learn C++ before so you can understand classes.
Now, you may be saying I may have been a bit hypocritical by saying not to ask how to hack but to ask about installing Linux. The thing is that Linux people are usually pretty nice, and the people who are Linux gurus want more than anything for Linux to prosper, and are willing to help you out. Oh, by the way, if you've installed Linux the way you want it (which does not include throwing you Linux box out the window and yelling, "I LIKE THIS JUST FINE!"), congratulations. You have now earned my respect.
Okay, I mentioned kiddie scripts earlier, and I'll follow up on it now. Kiddie Scripts are auto hacking programs that will do all the work for you. You don't want that. I do condone downloading them and learning from them, but don't become a script kiddie. The only place they go in life is jail (not where you want to be).
Now, you should know a great deal about hacking. You have a compendium of information at your fingertips with a mental index. You want the best advice? Don't hack. Odds are, you will get caught, and then it goes down on your criminal record, and unless you did something fan-fucking-tastic, like hacking the white house security cameras and get video of Slick Willie getting a BJ, you can pretty much kiss your computer future goodbye, cuz no one will hire a convicted hacker. If you do hack, be a white hat hacker. For example, upon breaking into a site, leave a note maybe including how to contact you (not through the phones, mail, real email address etc., do it through a hotmail account or something) or how to fix it. They may be nice enough to offer you a job! That's right, there are some people who get paid to hack and do what they love.
In conclusion, you may have noticed that this was not a real guide to hacking. That's because there is no one resource for hacking. This was a guide to LEARNING how to hack, which, if you want to be a real hacker, you will have to do. There is no one way to hack. (If so, it would be a lot easier for system administrators to keep you out!) It's a variety of different tricks as well as the ability to keep up with current vulnerabilities in software and hardware. You should also learn how to program. Even though Kevin Mitnick was infamous among the hacker culture for being the most wanted cracker, he couldn't even write his own exploits! That's pretty sad. Please use whatever information you have wisely and responsibly, and distribute it only to people who are worthy of it.
(end of article)
Note that some of the RFC's R4di4tion mentioned are now outdated, I'd suggest using rfc-editor.org to search for the RFC number, it'll tell you if another RFC has superceded the one you're searching for. IMO, RFC's really aren't that useful; they're a pain to understand, and you're much better off, IMHO, learning by doing. They are useful if you're writing an application and need to know about the standards.
Also, I'd no longer recommend Maximum Security; although a great book, it's now quite out of date. Try 'Hacking Unleashed' instead, or any recently released large book (around �50 (~$60)) that looks good.
I also very definitely agree with his suggestion to subscribe to bugtraq (securityfocus.com) but I'd suggest signing up a new email account solely for it; it's very high volume.
You may also want to sign up to the security-basics, vuln-dev, web-application-security and pen-test lists
Also, read google's sci/tech news, securityfocus.com's news pages, wired magazine, phrack, slashdot, and so on. In fact, the more you read, the better equipped you'll be.
ESR's hacker howto
Gary Robson's How to become a hacker
elfQrin's open letter to wannabe hackers
donk boy's tutorial - if you follow this you will know everything you need to
Top 100 security tools, as voted by nmap users
your suggestions/experiences/advice/resources/tutorials welcome.
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The best advice I can give you on almost any topic (but especially hacking) is "be resourceful".
Who: DiGiTaL-X
When: November 19th, 2004
Says: this is true
Who:
When: April 9th, 2005
Says: good advice, when you truely know a system you truely know whats wrong with it.
Who:
When: April 22nd, 2005
Says: This is good. Do more reading and dont forget to 'practical' it
Who: u24
When: April 25th, 2005
Says: indeed, and don't start learning code with PHP. it's far too easy, and will make it much harder to convert over to C or even perl.
Who: alex
When: June 11th, 2005
Says: can u hack without downloading anything
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from u24:
yes, technically, though a few programs do help a lot,
putty and nmap are the first two that spring to mind.
but remember that hacking is most definately not about using things like BO2k or sub7, it's about lateral thinking and knowing a lot about your system. If all you do is download and use programs then you're not actually understanding anything.
I would recommend learning C or some other programming language. This will give you a massive amount of knowledge.
Who: adonnis
When: June 24th, 2005
Says: are the mailing list things free sorry if it's a stupid question.I just want to learn.thanks
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from u24:
yep, 100% free. But as I said, sign up a new account for them, otherswise they'll fill your inbox in days.
Who: jose
When: June 25th, 2005
Says: what are some other books i can read to learn the basics,because i just bought Hacking:The Art Of Exploitation and i realy don't understand all of it.I understand some of it though.
Who: u24
When: July 4th, 2005
Says: really, you should start off by learning to program. try a teach yourself C book or something like that.
Who: jose
When: July 9th, 2005
Says: thanx for the advice u24 i bought c programming step-by-step and i have learned a lot. :)
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from u24:
really? excellent! most people don't bother actually trying to learn anything, and instead just carry on searching for a point and click solution, find bo2k and think they're a hacker.
well done for putting the effort in.
Who: my fuckfing god!
When: July 21st, 2005
Says: you looser y ou really expect some one to read all that shit....my eyes would proly get sore just from lokking at a pic of you:P{:P:P:P and your calling those people insomniacts
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from u24:
pardon?
Who: rutger406
When: July 28th, 2005
Says: shit in a fucking retard when it comes to hacking
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from u24:
shit in a retard? what on god's earth are you jabbering on about, you fool?
Who:
When: August 6th, 2005
Says: I want to become a bigest hacker Of this worl but only the thing I want to know I how to hack
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from u24:
read everything you find.
Who: Darkangel
When: August 12th, 2005
Says: man thanks for the guide helped me alot ready to learn thanks again
Who: Hacker freak
When: August 21st, 2005
Says: where do i find the linux program?!?!?!?!,grrrrr
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from u24:
google is your friend.
Who: Newbie
When: August 25th, 2005
Says: I've been on google for the past four hours and I haven't been able to get my hands on anything that's easy to download...
- Hunting for a cheap, preferably free Lunix program... Can't seem to find one though..
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from u24:
well, afaik, all the distros of linux have free downloads. If you're new to it, I'd suggest getting one of the small distros, like damnsmalllinux.org, as you won't need to remove windows in order to use it. After you've decided whether it's for you or not, you can get redhat or another big distro and either dual boot with windows or completely make the switch. - good luck!
Who: Violet_vibroblade
When: August 31st, 2005
Says: I am looking for the best hacking software to download and i don't know where to find any and i am just learning how to hack
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from u24:
you're in the wrong frame of mind. You don't need any special software to hack. There are program out there that will automatically hack into a website or computer, but they're bad for at least two reasons; firstly, you're more likely to get caught, and secondly, they don't teach you anything about how to hack, just which buttons to click. The advice on this page should start you off well.
Who: The bad guy
When: September 5th, 2005
Says: You say that someone must read everythging.I have done this so far but i m desparate now.I have some terras of howtos,ethicks and so on and i don't know which to read firstly...Moreover, a lot of times there are text for some protocol for example that from the whole text i only undeerstand three to four words("is""are"do"and so on...)(i 'm not a native english speaker)...I have tried learning programming laungages and alredy half a year now i have Linux Mandriva Limited Edition 2005 and i cannot even install drivers for my drivers...And i cannnot say the have made me a superuser so far althogh i of course like them a lot more than Windows(i have always been a linux fan although i made the start with windows).They have have a much more powerfull kernell but you must have fucking a lot of knoledge so to be able to use it fully...But i still want to learn hacking.Both white hat hacking and red.This is the best...To know both sides...
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from u24:
most of the 'hacking guides' won't help you.
by the way, your proxy is transparent.
Who:
When: September 9th, 2005
Says: hmmmm is this really about hacking, i'm talking about the rfco760 shit??? because if it's not, then i guess that i just wasted my time writing out all of the bullets in my note pad........(that would really suck, i don't want that to be true) anyways if ppl say that hacking is easy how come this dude is making it impossible to learn how to hack by typing all of that shit???? no offense.
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from u24:
before you can hack, you must have in-depth knowledge. this takes time and effort. I say again, learning to program is by far the best way to gain this knowledge.
Who:
When: September 12th, 2005
Says: okay this is still tazangel (i just changed my email) ummmm what do you exactly mean by what you just said by in-depth knowlege??? i'm slow at things like this.
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from u24:
:-) to break into a house, you can take 2 approaches, buy a few tools and you'll be able to break into 80% of houses by just putting the tools over the lock or window and you're in. You'll never be respected though because you're not doing anything you couldn't train a monkey to do - find nice looking house, use tool on door, steal things. Sure you have to have balls to actually do it, but that's where the skill ends. To be a master thief, you'd need to know exactly how locks work, how houses are built, then, you'll know the weaknesses and be able to break into any house, no matter whether you have the tools or not.
You can become someone who can break into a lot of websites/servers fairly easily - the tools are out there, but that's not hacking, that's just going through the motions. To be a real hacker, you need to know how the server/website is built. That's why the more reading you do the better, it's all about knowing things, the greater your knowledge, the better equipped you'll be to deal with things you don't understand - let's say you're faced with a really strange server, if all you've ever done is typed addresses into an autohacking tools, you'll press the button, the tools will say 'sorry, can't hack this one' and you'll move on to another target. With knowledge, you'll look at the server and think, hey this is weird, I wonder if it works like (blah other server), and you'll test it out, and eventually you'll get it, and you'll feel a lot more rewarded than you otherwise would.
I'm gonna shut up now :-)
Who:
When: September 13th, 2005
Says: ummm yeah but, aren't you supposed to teach us how to hack??? thax for the long note though.
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from u24:
heh, no-one can teach you, you have to learn for yourself.
Who:
When: September 13th, 2005
Says: darn, and i thought that this site was supposed to give out the keys to how to hack.........i hate learning, hell, i can't even learn in school. oh well.
Who: Eric
When: September 19th, 2005
Says: thanks for a lot but, i don't understant how
to use RFC
Who:
When: September 20th, 2005
Says: yeah how do you se the RFC????
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from u24:
search the rfc number at rfc-editor.org
Personally, I haven't found RFCs that useful for 99% of cases.
Who: gothic hacker
When: September 26th, 2005
Says: hmmm i think im starting to get the hang of this hacking, now when the fuckers at my school piss me off again i can hack into their pc. i them fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who:
When: September 27th, 2005
Says: hahaha i have mastred the power of hacking!!!!!!!!!!! fear me, fear me, FEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........well at least i think so.
Who:
When: October 12th, 2005
Says: I AM NOW THE KING OF HACKING! well maybe not.
Who: mr_mcshiny
When: October 17th, 2005
Says: i am fluent in VB and i wanted to know if visual basic work instead of C? i read the giude to mosly harmless hacking and it helped. . . a little. but some stuff was left out. i tried some of the stuff on there on my red hat and i was just typing from memory and not understanding what i was doing.
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from u24:
almost any programming language can do anything other languages can - one of my hobbies is making PHP do things that "it can't do"
Honestly, I usually suggest C because it's the hardest to learn, but offers the most benefit; if you can code well in C you can code well in anything (potentially, anyway)
(i make no claim to be a great C coder, in fact my C is very limited)
but the main issue is understanding things. Try writing client/server apps, start to understand how the net is held together at a programmatic level. I found it very useful to write a simple http client program that would connect to a server and return the html (see http headers section). One day I'll write a proper article about all the different approaches you could take, but for now, just keep programming.
The problem is that there's actually no such thing as 'hacking' or 'hackers' - everyone does different things. Some people play with TCPIP, others http, others ASM, etc, etc. yeah.
Who: The bad guy
When: October 27th, 2005
Says: What do you mean abouut my proxie?My proxie is some kind of f***ked nerves breaker...
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from u24:
your real IP is 81.186.19.214
your proxy IP is 194.63.235.166 :-)
Who: Wondering Aimlessly
When: October 28th, 2005
Says: Wow... I bet there really isn't one, and you'll probably not like this question, cause if i do it that way then i must not realli be devoted to it or blah blah blah... but i have talked to a few hackers and say that i takes years to be a truelly great hacker/cracker... but are there any short cuts... that isnt using a program(im not a hacker or even close... but i just dont think those are right...) cause I was going by a store... saw a couple of the books... and relised... DAMN thats a lot of reading :(... and im not big on that... but I'll do it if there isn't any other way :)
Who: u24
When: October 29th, 2005
Says: saying 'shortcut' implies that there is an end to the road - there is none. being a hacker is a continual process. the moment you start experimenting, you enter the process of becoming a hacker, and that's all any of us ever attain. The technology is evolving all the time, and so must our abilities.
Who: The bad guy
When: November 6th, 2005
Says: If you think I' m unsuccessfully trying to hide my IP, sorry but your are pretty wrong. This is how my network works, because of the fact that i have free internet, provided through the Greek (I' m a Greeck person thus i live in Greece) (And I'm f**king proud of it) some kind of University (Παννεληνιο σχολικό δύκτιο)... I would be really greatful if you could tell me a way i could really have some privacy (yeah, I mean really hidding my IP in every kind of way) as nowdays our personal information are even sold (see the 2600Hz The hacker quartery Vol 22.2 magazine, first topic)...!!! You, real hackers, should understand that something was going wrong and I was not trying to hide my self (Especially if you consider i have no reason to do so)! (Sorry for bothering the forum.If you could please answer to my question but you do not want in the forum send me at zarinos@hotmail.com)
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from u24:
well, your university has an odd setup then, but knowing uni IT guys, it sounds perfectly plausible. ;)
in the links section, you'll see a link to digitalcybersoft's proxy lists.
You can't hide your IP 100% effectively (easily, anyway), but by using a truly anonymous proxy, you'll be better off.
Who:
When: November 7th, 2005
Says: Do me a favour. plz tell me that how some body take full control of some one else computer?What is the procedure and what is the role of ip address..? And also tell me if any software is available for this?I just wanna do something with my friends... i hope u can understand this and will help me regarding this....by the way what u have written above was impresssive but little tuff too... i liked ur views..... keep going dear
Who:
When: November 7th, 2005
Says: One more thing If i get someone 's IP address than how can i access his computer using ip address... ???? and also what all we can do with some one ip address? If it is DSL...(Don't Talk Abt dial up,because it ip address changes always)
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from u24:
argh!
search google, or wikipedia.
this information is -easily- available. Learn how to find things out for yourself, it will help you a lot in the future.
Who:
When: November 15th, 2005
Says: so your wanting to be a hacker? why not try deciphering this, cool website, far to hard for me, im still learning..hehehe
this articles very good!!
http://www.thawte.com/cryptochallenge/
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from u24:
looks pretty interesting, I'll try my hand at this at some point - thanks for the link :-)
Who: Viper
When: November 23rd, 2005
Says: This hacking thingy is cool and all, but i'm more intrested in you u24. Do you hack for a living? Or is this just a hobby on the side? Have u ever been busted hacking somewhere covered in sensors and extra protection? If so, what happened? Also.... asl?
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from u24:
:-) it's just a hobby for me, though I'd like to do it for a living one day. As for getting busted... well, I nearly got thrown out of college about 4 years ago, and I got banned from our local library for a time, but that was back when I was much less cautious (and more than a little foolhardy). as for asl, I'm 22, male and in the UK studying philosophy and IT for my degree. I plan to do an Msc in something like AI/robotics.
I'd describe myself as a coder first, then a hacker; I code much more than I hack, and of course I'm still learning; but then aren't we all? On the scale of things with hacking, I'd say I was above average ability but nowhere near good enough to call myself elite.
Who: corn
When: November 26th, 2005
Says: Pretty fun reading, thank you for the article and ability to comment. You mention the likelyhood of getting caught using script kiddie tools. Why is it more likely? I will say however that script kiddie tools do have thier place. They provide you with some instant gratification, which I find helps to keep you motivated in the learning process. Script kiddies know what they do is lame and far from leet. It is obvious that you support ethical hacking and I commend you for it. Im glad you recommend learning C, its something ive been wanting to do for some time. Thanks again.
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from u24:
thanks for your comments.
I think it's more likely that you'll get caught if you use script kiddie tools because they basically aren't as elegant; the majority of vuln scanners will just hammer a server with everything they can to try to exploit some well known bugs. That's going to leave a much larger footprint than, say using nmap to do an idlescan, then only targetting the services that are available.
Or with web vuln scanners, one of my pet hates is seeing IIS vulns being scanned for on an apache box - wtf? it's just unneccessary! Plus, they raise my eyebrow, so they'll raise the eyebrow of whoever's admining the box; it gives you the risk of unwanted attention.
Run script kiddie tools against your own servers for 2 reasons:
1) find out what a script kiddie would find on your box
2) it's one way of learning about new vulnerabilities (eg, hey, it's scanning for formmail.pl, I've never heard of that, let's find out what I can with that)
IMHO there are much better ways of finding new vulnerabilites than using automated scanners, but I can see how they'd be useful for that.
Finally, you don't always know what script kiddie tools are actually going to -do- if they do find a vulnerability; you may end up doing things you really didn't want to; I saw one once that scanned for a vulnerable file by attempting to exploit it; if it found it, it added a user with a blank password as an admin to the box - do you really want to do that, or were you just poking around? Using script kiddie tools can elevate a harmless browse into an actual penetration, which may have legal consequences if you're caught, as well as taking control away from your hands.
Who: corn
When: November 28th, 2005
Says: Thanks for the reply. I see what you mean about the lack of grace. Im looking forward to learning to program. Would it be better to take it a step further back and learn assembly or is that unnecessary extra work? Also, is it easier to write programs to work with linux or windows, or is there no difference (compiling sw aside)? When you write a program that interfaces with hardware, does the os matter or are you just dealing with bios? One last ?, do you know of any good forums regarding c programming? (yes, im off to use google after this ;) Its nice to be able to talk to people, thanks again for your reply.
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from u24:
:-)
I don't know assembly, but I'd say that learning C would be better, as it'll give you a general understanding of programming logic. I wouldn't recommend learning assembly from scratch.
There is no difference in terms of difficulty between linux/windows programming *in C*. Windows has other languages, eg VB, which make things very easy, at the cost of actually understanding what's going on behind the scenes. imho, Visual Basic is to C what dreamweaver is to html.
There are probably a lot of people out there who'd say that programming in windows is bad because of memory management or a bunch of other things, but TBH, there's no really fundamental reason why the two should be any different. In short, program for whichever OS you use more. Good C code should be portable. If inter-OS programming is your kind of thing, take a look a java ;-)
I don't know of any c forums, but I'm sure there are. (devshed?)
I think interfacing directly with the bios is more an assembly thing, but shouldn't be impossible in C - within windows, they'd want you to do it all through API calls, which basically means that your program doesn't actually *do* anything, it just asks OS components to do things for you. Of course, that's what high level languages are all about.
Not sure how helpful I've been, chat more if I've been unclear ;-)
Who: master
When: December 12th, 2005
Says: i aint no ip hacker but he is right. go and learn to hack outside the box...I mean go and hack anything electronic...learn to program your everyday things like microwaves. lol be careful dont fry your brains. Assembly is a good place to start. Leave the servers alone they didnt do anything to you, only to me.
Who: master
When: December 12th, 2005
Says: this web posting comments is really unsecure admin....at least check what goes up b4 you let it be posted.
by the way visit:
http://hack.byethost15.com
for some nice programs
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from u24 (admin):
as you can see, I can edit any comment. I can also delete comments. I think it offers a better end-user experience to allow people to see comments go live straight away. This is also the reason I don't implement freeCap.
html/javascript insertion is impossible, URLs are not converted into hyperlinks, making this comment feature a low target for spammers.
If you can demonstrate exactly how the comments are insecure, i'd be interested. I'm aware that it's trivial to write a bot to automatically spam me, but if anyone did that, i'd ban their IP address. I've already done this to great effect with someone who was spamming my links page. They are now banned from the entire website.
There's no way to get PHP/SQL executed via the comment area. so what's the problem?
ps: 129.49.7.1**
As you see, I also log the IP of all commenters, and the proxy IP if applicable :-)
Who:
When: December 14th, 2005
Says: I kno absolute shit about hacking but for somthing fun check out notpron.com
Who:
When: December 31st, 2005
Says: Heh. I feel sorry for you guys. You put up things to help them and all you get back is spelling mistakes along the lines of "Waht iz IP??" and "Hopw can i hack a computer". Site is good, keep up the good work.
Who: master
When: January 4th, 2006
Says: message for u24 admin:
This blog can easily be ruined for visitors if some1 puts up a large number of blogs or posts in a short period of timer consuming up the whole page. This is easy to do with a program which loops and continuously sends large amounts of keys then hits the button then reloads the page and continues to do it all over again. But of course the way you have it now is easier for you. Even if you could remove all the comments a lot of text could be placed before you check and it would require a lot of work from you to remove them.
PS: the php to track IPs is a good choice but if the user uses a friends pc or a public one...or if someone really cares they can just wingate or telnet to a compromised pc and it would be difficult to track.
_A good way to go would be a picture id which has a random picture with text and the user confirms it by typing in the text.
Just dont name the picture anything similar to the text. Php would be a good choice or javascript.
TO ALL USERS:
If you want to hack follow this simpl rule:
Read Books.
A good book to start at is:
Maximum Security
other security books are good too, this is because the main way to hack is too breach or disrupt security, other ways could be used that are not illegal but are more difficult because then you have to analyze the legal terms and find loopholes or exploits there.
PS: I am looking for java playsite exploits
if you know of any contact me at loggerbath@yahoo.com
-feel free to spam
-Master :)
Happy Hacking!
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from u24:
yeah, some people are spamming certain pages, but it's really not that much work to remove them.
I have a written a picture entry script (search for freecap) which has been used in phpBB and mambo/joomla, but at the moment, there is no need to add it to all comment forms.
None of what you describe is an insecurity; none of it compromises security, it just allows spam. meh.
Who: master
When: January 4th, 2006
Says: oh ya and i fogot;
to u24 admin:
Why do you have a google ad on this page?
I am assuming you are getting paid for it but as I see now this is a hosted site??
If you feel like breaking the law just add this
right after the tag:
but i think this may work better:
tag before tag
and tag after tag
Happy Hacking!
-Master
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from u24:
I have google ads so I can make some money from the site :-)
Who: master
When: January 4th, 2006
Says: i see you removed all the tags :)
//source
noscript tag before body tag
/noscript tag after body tag
'' tag before '' tag
'' tag after '' tag
//end source
i see now how you program works though
it parses the text for '' characters and removes everything in between including the tags
Who: master
When: January 4th, 2006
Says: just a test feel free to remove::
test link
int i = 0;
i = this.text.length();
if(i == 0)
{
i--;
}
else
{
i++;
}
script tag test:
document.writeln("test");
corrupt tag test:
>< >>
Who: the evil hacker you will know too well in a few years when i am on top of the peak called the world [.] [.] [.] aka master
When: January 4th, 2006
Says: I program in c# but i dont know any c++ lol
The only reason I know C# is becuase I knew J#. The only reason I know J# is because i know java, and the only reason i know java is because i started out with Visual Basic 6... so as you can see programming is addictive so it doesnt matter which programming language you choose you will be addicted most likely and learn many in a few years.
I have learned many to different degrees.
1) Visual Basic 6
2) HTML
Who: ashhow
When: January 11th, 2006
Says: hello, i know nowt bout hacking just finding glitches inskool systems but when i get out of skool and join the army im going to dedicate alot of time to reading books to help me learn how to hack and maybe the army computers will enable me to hack without getting cought anyway you have all toughtme that hacking isnt as easy a 123... thanks and master maybe all se your name on the news on day just not on ma computer lol.
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from u24:
erm... ok. :-)
Who:
When: February 16th, 2006
Says: aha!!!!!!!! i'm back after..........a year or so. teach me how to hack.........are those things with the bullets supposed to teach you how to hack????????
Who: u24
When: February 18th, 2006
Says: the RFC's? not until you get more advanced and really need to go into the most basic level of networking, etc. Until then, play with programming, do some client server stuff in both windows and linux (if you find a decent free shell service let me know). Play with nmap and hping on some low risk networks - i.e. networks where, when you get caught they won't call the police. i.e. home, a friend's or, well.. be careful, you know?
once you've started to get a grip on how networks really work, and i don't just mean theoretically, you'll already be thinking about ways to twist the protocols. Now the chances are someone's already thought of doing what you're thinking of, but try it anyway. If you can, code it. If the project is open source, see how they did it. If your solution/method is better, let them know.
Ignore anything anyone tells you, instead, find out for yourself.
I cannot teach you anything.
An ancient (and therefore true, of course) chinese proverb runs something like this:
Tell me and I will forget
Show me and I will remember
Involve me and I will understand
You (anyone, that is) can email me. Let me know what you're looking at, what you're trying to do, why you think it's not working, and I'll try to help. Remember that I'm not your search puppy, so if I find the answer online within half an hour, I'll be very unlikely to respond again. Also, I only really know PHP well enough to help with coding. But again, php.net is where you really want to go first. Finally, bear in mind that I am in te middle of a degree, At the moment I've got three 2500 word essays, with about 10 books of reading each to be doing. Plus IT assignments. I may not respond for weeks or at all. Don't push me. I know it sounds like I've basically said 'dont email me', but that's not what I mean. What I really mean is don't ask me quick questions, show me interesting problems and I'll be interested.
:=)
Who:
When: April 29th, 2006
Says: I have just finished programming a keylogger, and have decided to sell it for $10. It's features are:
-Not detected by *any* antivirus program
-Installs to startup when run by victim
-Sends all logs by email to your email account
-Will run every time their computer restarts
-Also sends current active window name in logs
-Stops windows firewall service
So, all you have to do is pay me $10 by paypal, then I send you a .exe file I have already compiled all your settings in to, so you don't even have to set things up.
You pay me (and say which email you want logs sent to), I compile the program, I give it to you, then you send it out and receive logs in your email account. You can email me at mike_andrews100@hotmail.com , then I will proceed to give you further instructions on how to pay.
Who: u24
When: May 7th, 2006
Says: if you want to buy the above mentioned keylogger then fine.
but I'd advise you to check out the downloads section of this site first (there's a few free ones there), or search online. Or code one yourself in VB, it's not hard. Finally I'd warn against buying things from random people advertising on a hacking page.. and I'd like to make it clear that I have no affiliation with "mike andrews", whoever he is.
And another general tip, use mailtic.com for anonymous email pickups, eg if you can trick a system into sending you /etc/passwd, have it sent to foo@mailtic.com; they delete all records within 48 hours. nice :-)
Who:
When: June 1st, 2006
Says: you didnt tell me how to hack into peoples computers
will u please tell me?
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from u24:
it cannot be told, it must be learned. I have told you how to learn.
Who: Ethical Hacker
When: July 11th, 2006
Says: Interesting Read, I have applied to Uni to become one of the UK's first Legal Ethical Hackers. Its a 4 year (hons) course never been done before in the UK, only 30 places are allocated and I have an interview in 2 weeks with the Uni. I have always been interested in hacking but women and beer usually got in the way of me doind anything, is there anything you can recommend I do in the next 2 weeks to better prepare myself for the interview. The course will start with the basics (of course), I have read your complete forum tonight and found it very interesting, I have never programed or anything before so where do I start?
many thanks. Keep up the good work.
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from u24:
this sounds really interesting where is it taught? I'm sure the uni will teach you everything you need to know...
Who: wannabe hacker
When: July 17th, 2006
Says: how can i learn to hack?hell and just like gothic loser i hate reading ,specially computers .many a times it just passes over my head.u24 whoever u r help
Who: wannabe hacker
When: July 17th, 2006
Says: plzz help somebody who knows how to hack can someone teach me how to do illegal paypal transactions?plzzz.i need to become a guardian in AQ at battleon.com(ps i wud bless that person who tells me what to do)
Who: aarya
When: July 23rd, 2006
Says: i wanna learn hacking n i feel u suggest som good ways. i know to program in C++ (or atleast that is what i feel) and i hav also core java2 by sun. could u help me. what shall i do next.
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from u24:
learn TCP/IP, get into the inner workings of your favorite protocol, look at some known vulnerabilities and figure out how they work. Set up a network and some test servers and try to exploit them, research tools like hping and nmap and become confident in their use.
Who: zacky
When: August 12th, 2006
Says: i wanna learn hacking so i can hack into my brother's account cause he always bullies me like hell..i want da fastest way to hack..pls teach me.i'm desperate
Who: love hacking
When: August 13th, 2006
Says: i wanna learn how to hack so i can hack AQ game and be X-Guardian faster.i hate to wait plz hurry up!
Who:
When: August 14th, 2006
Says: i wanna know how to hack so i can have nightmare plate
Who: waqas
When: August 31st, 2006
Says: You said to read Practical Unix and Internet Security (Sec. Edition) but i think unix is almost obsolete now and LINUX is every where and your suggested book is about UNIX. can you plz explain this....
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from u24:
linux is based on unix, and the terms linux and unix are used pretty much interchangably nowadays, almost every time you hear someone saying 'unix', they mean 'linux'.
In this case yes you're right radiation was probably actually talking about Unix and the book is almost certainly outdated, but that doesn't mean it won't be useful - f you want to read a linux security book then go for it, but the book he mentions is very much a 'classic' and will teach you loads.
Who:
When: September 4th, 2006
Says: i want to know how to hack bank accounts,password and how to send virus
Who:
When: September 8th, 2006
Says: Ok well after reading what you have here I am interested to say the least. However what I am looking for is not learning to hack but infact to stop one or whould I say one who thinks he is one lol. What I would like to do is scare this little whiner right out of his socks. I am part managment of a gaming community and I have alot of members to look after. But this guy (Krux) is nothing but a pain and for some reason he keeps targeting us like a little baby retard. It isn't that he is doing much damage if any but what he does is anoying to say the least. What he is doing is using some admin tool to access our Teamspeak servers and changes the rooms on them as well as removing SA rights and so on. Once he made it almost impossable to gain control again but we managed to. I have tryed everything I can think of apart from taking a trip to his home and having a talk with his father and concidering the distance I would rather not. So what I am asking is this. I would like to scare him somehow. Like take control of his system and open his CDrom on him and move his pointer around on him basicly realy show him I have the control and to stop or more may happen in responce to his attacks. Unless however you have anothre idea on how to either stop him all together then my ears are open.
Thank you for your time please E-mail me back on this issue as I could realy use an experts assistance.
Thank you
Phil
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from u24:
Hi, it sounds like you do need expert advice, and I'm not really the person to talk to. But the first thing I'd do would be to find out if there's a newer version of the software he's hacking, and update if so. If not, get in touch with the developers, and hopefully they'll either be able to diagnose a config problem you've got or issue a patch for the vulnerability. As far as retaliation goes; log his IP address and report it to his ISP, if you're lucky they'll get in touch with him or suspend his net access (unlikely though). Good Luck!
Who:
When: September 22nd, 2006
Says: This is such a relief. I have been trying to find something more like this for a while. I fucked around with bo2k and sub 7. I kinda felt lame after I watched a buddy of mine hack NMCI from dos on a computer that didnt even have windows loaded. That is crazy. I asked him how to do it, and he told me exactly how he did it and it pretty much just sounded like mumbo jumbo to me. I really appriciate what you are doing here. One it is going to make me more proficient, and two its going to help me figure out how to protect my system.
Thanks again man.
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from u24:
I'm glad you found it useful, email me if you find anything cool - I'm no expert by any means :-)
Who: ???
When: October 14th, 2006
Says: @Gabby_in_love
That is (by the sound of it) out of your league: nobody can (in reality) hack a major bank in a matter of 2 seconds without being traced, or you would have no money, whatever happens. To hack passwords, find the hash and use c&a (oxid.it) to crack it. To send viruses, run an exploit that downloads and runs a telnet server on another's computer, and that's about all you need to do, because that is a good enough backdoor for most.
Who:
When: October 21st, 2006
Says: i need a strong and east hacking software and i want you use it... and now about hacking...
Who: sw33t
When: December 20th, 2006
Says: this is very true. i will look into it. i know some C++ and some VB and made the programs that it shows and customize it.
Who:
When: January 11th, 2007
Says: Well, I do know how to program, Java, C#, C++, C. The latter two not amazingly well compared to Java (which I realize is a secure language, but thats why i love it).
I am in Computer Engineering, and honestly want to hack and manipulate my own computers and better my network that I set up for my family. I love networking, I have set up a web server, ftp server, which isnt a big deal, but I have taken it to the step of programming my own server and clients for controlling computers and uploading/downloading files for Linux and Windows. Of course that program isnt mallicious, its for remote control of my server (I know windows has one, but it was fun). I would love to hack it and see its flaws to be honest.
I know I dont know tons, but I would love to see how one finds vulnerabilities in a setup for a network and how to make it more secure.
I am looking forward to your reply, and I will check out some of those books.
Who: user24
When: January 12th, 2007
Says: see the note on the 'security' page (left).
Research buffer overflows.
Code an application to brute force the login.
Patch your server to deny access after X unsuccessful attacks.
Install a vulnerable FTP server on another machine and, after being locked out from your hacker box, use the FTP-bounce technique to continue the attack.
Set up a sniffer between your 'legit' client and the server; sniff the password.
Institute encryption (SSL?) and try to run a MITM attack between the client and server.
You can't learn up to the minute attacks from scratch; start with old ('useless') well documented attacks and learn how they work. See if you can tweak the attacks to work against your setup.
Install old versions of X, Y and Z, run nessus against the server and learn how to exploit those old versions.
and so on.
Let me know how you get on :-)
Who:
When: January 13th, 2007
Says: Good ideas (btw, thank you for getting back to me)...I recently saw a video talk on network security held on google:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5159636580663884360&q=java+release
That was quite interesting (im sure you prolly know most of the info as it seemed basic) - but to anyone else reading the replies there it is for them (as I did read replies to others). One thing I think hes right about in the talk is that when I learnt how to program any of my languages "security" was never considered in anything (I think I over-stepped my learning to know how to do web), but how can programs not have vulnerabilities if no1 teaches about it? Sort of annoys me.
Im trying to understand buffer-overflows now, but my server (ftp, and my own java "vnc" (homemade)) denies brute force (if desired). I also have prevented users to get the passwords (while server is running - ie: users logged in cant see the security file for my java program).
I think MITM seems a little complicated, but I definitely want to know how I could do it because, someone told me my program likely is vulnerable to it. Conceptually i think thats true (especially with regular byte by byte file download and upload), and I definitely will look into how to protect against it (if I dont soon learn how to do it).
I am definitely going to look into "bounce" technique. Thank you for the reply, it definitely is a solid ground of what to search for instead of "hacking" (etc...) lol.
btw, i also noticed that since my server requires a port to be opened by the router, "telnet" can get in (somehow), but there are no commands available. Is that a vulnerability? I mean its definitely vulnerable, but no commands etc...so i would assume thats meaningless? Is that assumption true?
Thank you again, have a good weekend.
Who: u24
When: March 4th, 2007
Says: if someone can connect through telnet then, if the telnet service is vulnerable, they could run a buffer overflow attack and gain access. phrack had some good articles on buffer overflow basics "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit" and there are a few other papers kicking about regarding more modern techniques.
You should consider firewalling that port to only allow trusted IPs to connect. Perhaps also research port knocking :-)
Who: j44
When: March 10th, 2007
Says: If it gets you caught all the time, why do you hack ? I mean, whats hacking if its not illegal ?
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from u24:
To me, hacking is not entirely about gaining unauthorised access to other people's computers. I haven't broken the law by hacking for a number of years now.
Hacking is a mindset that allows you to solve problems. It's a very broad thing. I hack my own computers for the challenge, and to learn how to secure them. Hacking can involve any technology, not just the internet.
I try to guide people here away from using their skills illegally. I know it would be a lot more rewarding to hack legally as a job than to hack illegally. I think one of the biggest problems is that a lot of 'hacker' sites are encouraging the blackhat philosophy, and people aren't getting a full picture of what hacking can be like. I try to even the balance by providing quality information without encouraging people to break the law.
You can be a totally legal hacker, it just takes a bit of restraint, but I think it's worth it.
Who: i want to learn how to hack
When: March 15th, 2007
Says: tecach me
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from u24:
read everything on this page, including all the comments.
then read all the "Useful Links", especially ESR's page and elfQrin's letter.
then follow all the advice in all those places.
If all that sounds like too much work, I'm sorry but you probably don't have what it takes.
Who: syn/ack
When: March 19th, 2007
Says: i like this a tad cynical i see why u have been targeted as an anti and do u honestly believe people will read all those books although i agree they are some of the best out there along with the steal this computer book 1.0 - 4.0 and a few others that are probably too technical anyway i found it sorta funny from an experienced point of view although i doubt thats what u were going for but w/e
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from u24:
no, I don't expect people to read those books, but I do hope they will, at least some of them. The main article on this page wasn't written by me; I just put it up because I think it's very good advice. I just want to guide people away from being script kiddies, and hopefully guide people into a more whitehat constructive approach than what they might find elsewhere. A lot of the so-called blackhat sites are nothing more than wannabe hax0rs pushing empty 'tutorials' that teach nothing useful whatsoever.
I make no claim to being a leet hacker myself; I'm just a programmer who's picked a few things up on the way. One of the most important things I've learned is that 'hacker' is a verb not a noun, if you understand what I mean.
I was targetted as an anti because I hosted a copy of the specialham forum during the bluefrog incident. (that is to say, I hosted it so that antis could still access it when specialham closed its doors to outsiders). I also was active on some antispam forums at that time, and still am, on and off.
thanks for your comments. Could do with more experienced people like yourself commenting here.
Who:
When: March 24th, 2007
Says: i still didnt learn how to hack. your information did nt help.i am trribly angry for wasting time in your stupid site
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from u24:
well, tell you what, search google for "script kiddie sploits" or even better "I'm not willing to work for something I want" and I'll see you in jail.
Who:
When: April 12th, 2007
Says: all right, i don't live in england or america, and all the books which you recommend are the ones which i will never find in where i live right now, so...is there any websites you know that can help me???
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from u24:
a very good question. for some very very basic stuff, there's hackthissite.org, but you have to keep in mind that it's really not very realistic, and it's geared towards web application cracking, rather than network penetration. But there are some smart people on there.
Browse bugtraq.
Search for information on penetration testing, forensics, cracking and web application security. Those are some of the broad areas that you might end up being interested in. Each involves different skillsets.
At the outset, you should focus on learning skills, not learning how to use tools.
I mean, it all depends on what you are interested in. You'd do well to learn how TCP/IP works in any case. And learn a programming language. Go for C/C++/C#. There are plenty of programming guides online. Start with the basics and then work up to learn how to write networking applications. After that, research buffer overflows.
If that doesn't excite you, learn perl and mysql and reasearch SQL injection, XSS. Get some webhosting and play with that. Learn linux admin in relation to web hosting, get a shell account.
I don't know about cracking protection schemes, but that will involve assembly programming / debugging mostly.
Computer forensics involves a much broader skillset; research filesystems, learn how operating systems work. Again I don't know a huge amount about that. forensicfocus.com is a good forum for professionals - lurk there and you'll learn a lot about CF.
I'm sure there are millions of "hacking" sites, but honestly, most real hackers don't call themselves hackers, nor do they have webpages, so the vast majority of 'hacker' sites are led by wannabees. To find proper information, you'll need to search for different keywords.
Good luck - let me know what you find :-)
Who:
When: April 13th, 2007
Says: Sup u24, just wana say that this forum was damn interesting. I've neva really been involved in hacking but it has always interested me. Goeie Werk
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from u24:
thanks, glad you enjoyed.
Who:
When: May 4th, 2007
Says: You're all a bunch of morons if you think it's that easy...
RESEARCH, READ, and learn, don't ask... think, try and keep trying...
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from u24:
this, coming from someone who makes their living reselling domain names. hah.
you shouldn't ridicule people for being less experienced; they have the will, all they need is the knowledge.
ridicule them once they've proved themselves worthless if you have to, but calling them morons for seeking answers smacks of hypocrisy and more than a little undue self-importance, perhaps.
then again, maybe I'm just strange in that I enjoy helping people. I just don't like it when people try to elevate themselves above others. I bet you asked stupid questions when you were a newbie. We all did.
Who: freaked out
When: May 15th, 2007
Says: hey u24 theres this girl who is stalking me and freakin the $H*T out of me she says she will try 2 pic me or pic one of my friends of can u help plz i will work as hard as i can if u help me
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from u24:
I don't really know what you expect me to be able to do; if she's claiming she'll hack you, take a visit to windows update and install all the security patches and service packs, then activate windows firewall or install a third party firewall, and try to avoid her online; put her on your ignore lists and set up a filter in your email to delete anything from her automatically.
Who: freaked out
When: May 15th, 2007
Says: no she says she kill me or 1 of my friends i got her msn cause she added me i wanna bring down her computer
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from u24:
Get in touch with the msn abuse department, although she's probably just screwing with you to be honest.
Who: freaked out
When: May 15th, 2007
Says: ok thx 4 ur help man
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from u24:
no problem - don't get stressed about it, there's no chance she can find out where you live unless you've given her your address or phone number etc, or you've put it on your profile. So assuming you haven't done that you're safe.
Who:
When: May 22nd, 2007
Says: i need EXP on battleon
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from u24:
then play more.
Who: neminem
When: May 31st, 2007
Says: Hey, you've been StumbleUpon'd (StumbledUpon?)! Just thought I'd let you know, I found it a quite enjoyable read. Now, I have absolutely no interest in the sort of hacking this guide is about, only an interest in "hacking" in the original MIT sense. But I'm glad to see there are intelligent people out there willing to respond to all the lame script kiddies of the world in an intelligent fashion, rather than just telling them all to STFU and/or GTFO. Cause that's what *I* tell them, when random people ask *me* if I can help them hack this or that.
The sad thing is, I'm sure I could pick up hacking in this sense reasonably quickly, at least after next semester (in the past year, I've worked in c, c++, perl, python, php, javascript and a bit of java, I've taken classes in computer systems and in operating systems, and next semester I get to take networks, which I think will be amazingly fun). But I'm a codemonkey, not a security guy - course, it's rather necessary to learn everything there is to know about hacking, if you yourself write any networkable code.
No, I don't really have a point with this, I mainy just wanted to say that I enjoyed the article and your comments, and enjoy getting the StumbleUpon population descending upon you for a few days.
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from u24:
thanks :D I'm glad you enjoyed it. I think I've been stumbled for a while, but maybe that was another page. all traffic is good traffic!
Who: neminem
When: May 31st, 2007
Says: So, then I noticed, apparently you were the one who submitted your own site. Not that I mind, it just sort of makes my post pointless, since you clearly already know that this page has been added to the database, what with having added it yourself.
Still a good read, though.
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from u24:
haha! yeah, shameless self-promotion. I forgot I did that. Well, i've been stumbled by others since then, too.
Who:
When: June 6th, 2007
Says: need 2 no!!! lol!!!
Who:
When: June 26th, 2007
Says: This is good I'm a newbie and want to learn more. I know u guys can't teach people how to hack but i just want to know is there any local libraries with hacking books cause i love to read.
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from u24:
I'm sure your library has lots of useful books, and the internet is a good resource too. Searching for things like "hacking" won't get you great information though - try broader search terms like "networking" etc.
Who:
When: July 3rd, 2007
Says: this is shit i dnt undertand how tells you how to hack email on how to do it!
Who: tahanoo
When: July 7th, 2007
Says: This site is pretty helpful. but what if you really don't have oodles of time and you just thought of something like this could be fun to learn.. is there anyway to play around and still learn alot? Just wondering. Thank you.
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from u24:
well that's how I learned, by just playing around in spare time.
Who:
When: July 14th, 2007
Says: hey i read ur article and i liked it, i am a wannabe hacker but i dont kno how to get started or wat to do, could u help me
Who:
When: July 15th, 2007
Says: great article - i am a wanna be hacker and this has helped alot...
cheers - entertainment
Who: A Real Possibility [.]
When: July 20th, 2007
Says: Hey u24. I have always found interest in networking and such, but have always looked at the "1337 H4X012" sites, which are total BS BTW, but anyways I have always needed that little push to get started. I looked around on different forums and such, but never found that information that actually got me the knowledge, not just the pursuit of becoming a "hacker". Anyways, thanks for the information and resources.
Also, I read all the other comments posted. Some are from clever people, and others less fortunate. Anyways, about the comments of legal and illegal hacking, my neighbor actually has a very nice career in hacking, as he worked for the police and is currently working for a private business who hacks banks and other important computer entities in order to test the security. I have been thinking about approaching him for information, seeing as how my parent and him are great friends. anyways, I was wondering what should I ask him to about further my knowledge on the given subject. So just message me back and I'd greatly appreciate it.
ThAnKs,
DrAKe K.
Who:
When: July 25th, 2007
Says: you can get linux off ubuntu.com
Who:
When: July 27th, 2007
Says: Quick two cents:
A Hacker is not what is portrayed on TV. If that's what you think a Hacker is, or that is what you want to be, you should not even consider attempting it.
To Hack is to get something to operate out of its designed (or intended) parameters to allow you to do something that -you- want. You see a lot of some of the best hackers that are not even related to computers. Look at organic biologists--they are some of the most amazing hackers on the planet. They have managed to get a natural plant to perform a function that THEY want.
That my friends, is true hacking. Learning to Hack solely so you can 'steal' your friend's passwords, or elevate your status in a game is completely the opposite of why you should be learning about hacking. Hacking is about curiosity, about understanding how things work. Its about peeling the layers off of the onion we call an OS and seeing how everything interacts and functions together as a system. Its about taking an electronic device and stripping it down to make it perform more like how you would like it to perform.
Granted, there are times when you need to be slightly black hat (I mean this in the evil way, not in the I have no idea what this system is, black-hat approach :P). When companies limit you to what you can do with your legally purchased items and you want to understand how these things work, its time to figure out how the particular item works and then find holes, bugs, flaws to exploit it so that you may enjoy the item in a way that YOU want, not the company (I'm looking at you xbox).
For me, I know a lot about a lot of different things related to computers. I am curious as hell about how things work. I understand many different computer related issues and how to get around them. I have never 'hacked' as the retarded media puts it. Could I? I don't know--that's not what interests me; however, if I get locked out of my Linux box, I could get back in.
Guys please, PLEASE realize that hacking is not about breaking things. It is about making things do what they were not intended to do. If you can get your TV to accept DIVX signals and decode them through standard catv, you my friend, are a hacker. Hacking is not related to just computers. Don't forget about the phones too.
We don't need more kids in the world who hack because its the cool thing to do, or hack because they want to look like the people on TV that 'hack'. We need more creative, intelligent coders; people that bend the rules 180 for everyone's advantage. If you don't like reading in life, then you are doomed for nearly every aspect of life.
One last note: I will admit that I was exactly like half of these kids on here screaming for help to steal account passwords when I was 9 or 10. But then my natural curiosity took over when I was around 12-13 and I started screwing around with phone systems. It wasn't for my gain, but I did it for fun and because I like learning. Hacking anything is ABOUT LEARNING. You will never know all there is to know, so if you don't like CONSTANTLY learning, this is definitely the wrong place to be.
--My extended two cents.
Thank you for the article author (I forgot your name, I apologize). Keep on learning.
~wootah
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from u24:
a very true and good 2 cents it was. thanks.
Who: Curious
When: July 29th, 2007
Says: Hey u24 :) I have read your post and it was very interesting, I have considered reading, maybe not all but atleast some of the books you listed as important. But the main reason i post this is becouse i wondered when you (age) started hacking, at what degree(how much time you spendt) and if you had any encouragement. I ask this becouse im a quite young person, and I love to read, but im unsure if its worth spending very much time(if that is needed)
Thank you for posting this u24 it has really opened my eyes and given me some questions :)
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from u24:
i started programming before I went to school (ZX81) and got interested in hacking about age 16. The main mistake people make is to think that learning to hack is something that ever stops; no-one has ever learned how, we are all still learning. Is it worth it? Only if you enjoy learning.
Who: P0tt3r
When: July 31st, 2007
Says: I think this is the first book which biginers need to read.
Who: Tom Riddle
When: August 2nd, 2007
Says: What do you use your hacking skills for?
If you dont have it as profesion, and dont fuck up random computers, what are the hacking skills "useful" for?
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from u24:
it's a hobby, more than anything.
Who: Atamus
When: August 6th, 2007
Says: rad
all i have to say
just spent the past hour and a half reading the article and every comment on this page
now im going to read more
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from u24:
good for you :)
Who: mal [.] [.] devil
When: August 11th, 2007
Says: tru
Who: young girl
When: August 12th, 2007
Says: Ever since I have been hacked... I've been intriged in hacking and becoming a hacker. I wasn't even mad when I was sitting at my comp and my CDRom was comming in an out, or when my screen was going all black and the guy was talking to me over that. I was in aw. My mouse cursur was out of wack and my doucuments were locked. I almost fixed it. Until a went and did something stupid, and deleted a hidden file in a folder. That was last year. I have been reading hacker blogs and all that. But have never actully went out and read any thing. Such as the suggested books. Although you cannot reply right aways. I was wondering if you knew what was going on with my computer and if you know what program he used. He sent me a pic of my desktop and flipped my screen 900 degrees. There was a file on my antivirus that said prorat4 or something like that. I can't really remember. Any how, thanks.
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from u24:
that sounds like netbus or sub7 - get a trojan scanner.
Who:
When: August 16th, 2007
Says: fuckers
anysoftware to download?
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from u24:
yup. try the "downloads" link.
Who:
When: August 16th, 2007
Says: I like your style mate. Thorough yet straight to the point. I don't get why you chose such a pointless name, but I guess you have your reasons...
Anyway, what is the deep web? And how do you get on it. (Cyberspace)
Hope you enjoyed your holiday.
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from u24:
thanks, deep web? sounds like a buzzword invented to describe things like member-only forums, private IRC channels and things like that. it's not one thing.
Who:
When: August 20th, 2007
Says: yo dude~
im 16 too n vr5 interested in hacking... :)
hurmm,thnx 4 ur help wit these info..
(even there is sum word i din undstand..)
Who: im a super noob
When: August 23rd, 2007
Says: if any one reads this i reely need help im a beginer and know nothing of being a reel hacker i really need help just to explan what to do do i need programes need to know my system do i need to know password or what if anyone sees this plz message at {13ounty_77unter@sbcglobal.net} im soo retarted plz i dont know what to do or how to do it
Who: sam
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: hi guys ....m a biggner....
can any genious haccker tell me how to hack a website simply.....coz i dont have vast knowledge of java and all that.....
please do reply on my email.....SARIM.HASHMI@GMAIL.COM.
THANKYOU........!!
Who:
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: Having read your \"guide\" above it just seems to scream common sense to me. Good work and I thank you for it.
Also having read the posts below it also seems to me that a lot of ppl dont get past the first paragraph!! It is exactly these idiots that I\'m trying to foil so I should be thankful for that too !!!
Am not so much a noob, more of an absentee for the past 7 years(I didn't start with a ZX81 like yourself but a C64 and then a varied trail of computers that ended in a violent mess 7 years ago!) but I have to say I find it hilarious that people want to hack yet can\'t even fathom how to use a search engine to get some of the relevant details. Genius. Not after any help ( yet!!! ) , just felt the need to comment. Hope your hols were fun dustylines
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from u24:
thanks, it's nice to see it's not just noobs who read this page.
Who:
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: U24
I have a problem could you sort me out?
Ive started on the c++ 21 day course and even on the first chapter am having problems, not that i dont understand whats being tort but my pc?
everytime i try to write a program in Note pad, like
1: #include
2:
3:
4: int main();
5: {
6: cout
Who:
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: 6: cout
Who:
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: 6: cout
Who:
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: U24
6: cout
Who:
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: I CANT ADD THE REST!! OF THE COMMENT
HELP PLEASE
Who:
When: August 27th, 2007
Says: These numbers are for reference within the book.
then try to run it, i come up with the error messege.
16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem
c:\DOCUME~\***~1.CAT\Desktop\
HELLO.EXE
The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.
CS:0700 IP:0103 OP:63 6c 75 64 65 Choose
'close' to terminatethe application
I have know idear what this means could you help?
thanks Rich
Who:
When: August 28th, 2007
Says: hey just wanted to know why you would use C programming when its to liner when using other easier program languages are easier for the job. and just as a comment C was a little harder for me to learn then the other languages. not that its hard its just harder then the other languages. ^-^x that it is
Who:
When: August 28th, 2007
Says: one more thing i always thought that hacking was not manipulating files or stuff like that it was information gathering. i thought that we only manipulated files when needed and that were all just programmers
Who:
When: September 2nd, 2007
Says: Hi, I put up a different e-mail address to mine just in case (you know). I\\\'m very glad that a smart person (plus from UK (I\\\'m from London)) posted something very smart about computer hacking. I totally agree with you, reading is the key to almost everything, unlike a teacher (who can make a mistake) books do not make mistakes (authors do). Ha ham even though I hate reading it\\\'s for better... Thanks again, I\\\'m trying to hack your site at the moment...wish me luck. Peace.
Who:
When: September 13th, 2007
Says: original i know, just wanted to say that from what ive read, the large majority of people going "teach me to hack" on the comments section are barely literate and wouldnt know the difference between encapsulation and recursion if it kicked them in the face....i mean come on...some intelligence required.. the ignorance of the majority of internet users makes me laugh
Who: main white shadow!
When: September 19th, 2007
Says: chal be ooo chiyape
abay kon padhe ga itna sara fazool ka makhol! nahi sekhni hacking buss :(
Who:
When: October 6th, 2007
Says: بالشفا
Who:
When: October 13th, 2007
Says: Hi.I want 2 learn hacking ina simple way.I want to know a person's mailid's password.can anyone help me out.
Who:
When: October 13th, 2007
Says: please do reply to my mailid.
Who:
When: October 16th, 2007
Says: U24. I have begun the process of which you have so neatly detailed in the above. However,I have some simple questions really. Although your guide was very easy to follow, I have found myself falling into a loophole. I am in the process of setting up for Knoppix, ubcd, nessus and currently running firefox.
IF at all possible, could you please take a few moments to answer these questions via email? I give you my word, there are "how do I" questions among them. Mainly looking to build a flow chart of sorts.
My Sincereste gratitude and humble allegiance,
Merc.
Who: Merc
When: October 16th, 2007
Says: My bad. There are NO "how do I" questions....LOL
Who:
When: October 16th, 2007
Says: i have read your guide and found that it is very useful. What i would like to no is it key to have linux installed for hacking or can you use windows??
As you can tell i am a complete beginner
thanks alot
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from u24:
there is no "key" to hacking, there are just certain things which will teach you more than others.
Who:
When: October 19th, 2007
Says: will i become a expert hacker once i do all u have told?
how much time will it require?
and yes does portforwarding increases pc speed?
and what is the use of a proxy server?
my pc is fuckingly slow
please tell me how to increase its speed?
and yes last but not the least i want to
thank u for the info u have provided
thanks again!!!!!!!!!
Who: whooty
When: October 24th, 2007
Says: Hi all,
Lately I'm experimenting a lot with programming games, I've created some fun minigames but I have no idea how to make a uncrackable security. First I wondered how "real" programmers would do it, and I came to a solution, but even games from big company's like Electronic Arts are cracked, It looked very obivios to me my easy solution would be cracked quite easyly. So I ask it to any Hacker/Cracker that reads this. How would you make a NO-CD patch if I'd use a code that works like this:
Main program:
While SecRunning=0 {
execute program "sec.exe"
SecRunning=1;
}
A={Check if A:/ is a CD drive}
B={Check if B:/ is a CD drive}
..
Z={Check if Z:/ is a CD drive}
sd=directory from sec.exe
cddrive1={select first CD drive which is true}
..
cddrive4={select fourth CD drive which is true}
If SecRunning=1 and (sd.firstchar=cddrive1 or sd.firstchar=cddrive2 or sd.firstchar=cddrive3 or sd.firstchar=cddrive4) then{
execute main program
Else
Close program.
sec.exe is an hidden file, always running while the CD is in.
sec.exe closing code:
Main program.SecRunning=0;
This would make sec.exe am always running file from the CD, which makes it impossible to remove from the CD because its in use.
So Basicly it check if sec.exe is running from a CD drive, if not it doesn't execute. How would a cracker make it possible to play it without CD anyway?
And then, how do I protect my system against programs like daemon tools
Who: whooty
When: October 24th, 2007
Says: At Richard: you will need a compiler, which puts your code into an output for the computer, I Reccomend DevC++, exelent free compiler.
Who: Ra
When: October 25th, 2007
Says: houla...
im iz a baginer/still noob.....
ceach me how to hacking.....
plsss reply to me @ john_arcbucle@yahoo.com
john.arcbucle@gmail.com
Who:
When: October 26th, 2007
Says: i wanna be participated in hacking member
for that what i should do
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from u24:
write code, contribute to open source security projects, check out underground forums. be useful.
Who:
When: October 30th, 2007
Says: Hey, I have yet to get the books that I've seen listed up in your guide, but I will get them this week. Firstly thanks for the wealth of information (books and references to use for help on how to hack), secondly I have a question about the Linux part of all this. I am downloading Ubuntu. Is that a good Linux OS, or if not, what is? Thanks in advance.
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from u24:
yeah, ubuntu's a very nice system. Good luck and post back here with how you get on! :-)
Who:
When: November 2nd, 2007
Says: Hey there, i have read lots of the stuff you ppl wrote truh the time, and i wanna know, wich stuff is the moust basi to start with,
i have just started school again and have lot bout com's and stuff, and was getting furios about some guys hacking me from the outside, what can i do, wich stuff shall i read learn to counterhack them, not evil stuff but when they hack me just get by them on to his/hers com and leave a wink so they know im not unskilled, could any1 give me some good ""noob"" hints or relate to some links where i can get some info bout that??
Regrats Peter, hoping to get a mail or two from you ppl,.
Who: Ben
When: November 2nd, 2007
Says: Hey there
Some great advice, i will definately start with some C+++, having said that i was always pretty good in BASIC on the ZX Spectrum 48k, and have recently been building the YAY way to cheat people on yahoo chess at yics.org
Whats the best way to get round a CAPTCHA as this has presented a problem to me?
Thanks, keep up the good work
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from u24:
I learned on a ZX spectrum too.
There's a section on the left all about breaking captchas - enjoy :-)
Who: Angela
When: November 4th, 2007
Says: I need to hack my schools gradebook to change my F to a B. Lol and Im SERIOUS.
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from u24:
ok, here's how to get a B; study more!
Who:
When: November 5th, 2007
Says: This was actually very useful, i know practically nothing about hacking, but still hate when the media portrays hackers as people who break things. I think i need to learn programming, my GF is getting sick of me breaking things around the house (Trying to see how they work, curiosity is a bitch ;)).
Cheers
Who: dearking
When: November 5th, 2007
Says: Damn, Phate just summed up what I was going to say. Hopefully I'll get around to learning this... It's kinda late atm, kinda in the tl;dr mood. Thanks though.
Who: alex_bacs
When: November 6th, 2007
Says: ill try..
Who:
When: November 7th, 2007
Says: Hi to all you Cyberians out there. GREAT WORK done by all of U at puremangocouk
I have found your article in the Google Search Engine and have found the article The Only True Guide to Learning how to Hack - by R4di4tion very Informative and Explorative. I have indeed learned a lot of new things from this article.
I am into PC's since nearly 12 to 13 Years. I have an experience of 10 to 11 years as a "CUSTOMER SUPPORT ENGINEER - Desktop PC's and Accessories". Inspite of this Practical Experience I did not know a few of the things mentioned in this article.
Good Job done R4di4tion. Keep it up.
That's it for now Bye Bye. Take Care.. If U have some time do drop text to me @ krupakar2u@sifymail.com
Krupakar Joshua
Who:
When: November 7th, 2007
Says: I find a lot of Master out here. Guys all of ya are good enough, I guess. But remember Hunger to Learn Never Dies. Each and Everyone is trying to WIN the Race of becoming the Supreme Hacker.
I simply put it this way. I am 100% SURE that For a Human Being to become Totally Perfect and Master the Art of Hacking is quite IMPOSSIBLE. If Possible then the very next moment HE or SHE cannot Escape the Hands of the LAW.
I do not man to harm anyone by telling all this Stuff but I wish to Share my thoughts.
Any one out there If U are a perfect Master of HACKING then send me the Guide for How 2 Hack ATM's. I will Proclaim that the person who does so as the KING of Hackers on the INTERNET in as many WEBSITES possible and Make the Person a Famaous Celebrity.
That's it 4 now.
Greetings to all of U...!!!
Krupakar Joshua
Who:
When: November 8th, 2007
Says: I know java and I kinda have a problem here. I have an ip adress, but i dont know where to type it in. and what to do when I type it in. I`ve never hacked before but I have done DNS Zone tranfers (I saw a video on how to do it). But still I can not hack a computer. Could you plz help me out here?
Who: luke
When: November 8th, 2007
Says: A true hacker would never spell anything wrong so everyone who claims to be one and spells even the simplest words wrong is surely not a hacker and the term hacker is very different to cracker don't ask me find it out for yourself because if you want to be a hacker you need to have patience to work out things on your own.
Who: † //v\\ìRÃÙGê †
When: November 8th, 2007
Says: First I just wanted to mention to those of you like "Gothic loser" and "Wannabe hacker". Please note, I'm not trying to be rude to you. You need to either leave or stop commenting on this page, he has answered your questions. The answer to the question "Will/Can you teach me to hack?" has been answered even in a example of breaking and entering. No one will will teach you how to hack, but it is indeed nice of this person to teach you to learn. Let me make this clear to you guys and those of you that think similar. There will be shitloads of reading...... if you don't like that then you don't like to learn.... and I'm sorry to break that to ya, *learn programming*. Now to the above statement, I just wanted to mention thats false. Hacking does indeed require a large amount of patience and to a certain extend its nice to be obsessive compulsive. However, in no way does that mean their chat can't have typos.
Who:
When: November 9th, 2007
Says: Luke, are you even a true hacker. Maybe you just trie to sound like one. Hackers do spell words wron and if you are that good why dont you write your reply in 1s and 0s. Think about that before you trie to break eneyone down, they might crash your pc one day.
Who:
When: November 11th, 2007
Says: U24, i really like your, writing and all of those stuff about reading. I have been downloading a torrent of those books, and tell me are those enough? please look at the C section with all those C stuff, are those fine??????
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3730264/Over_1100_General_Computer_Ebooks
Who:
When: November 12th, 2007
Says: good article now everybody wants to be a hacker
Who:
When: November 12th, 2007
Says: I just want to know the diff b/w making and breaking
Who: masnm
When: November 12th, 2007
Says: i dont no how to do it
Who:
When: November 18th, 2007
Says: So basically if i know the system, ill know how to hack it?...maybe a stupid Question but i only just took an interest today in hacking.
Who:
When: November 19th, 2007
Says: Right, im new to hacking and programming. Ive heard python is great for beginners...but im lost, i cant seem to find any codes that could get me started. I was wondering if anyone could perhaps tell me something to put into python command line so i can start somewhere please e-mail me with advice and/or help i would be very grateful.
Who:
When: November 21st, 2007
Says: i thing its for use only hacked the password
Who:
When: November 24th, 2007
Says: thanks whooty, will have a look at that straight away. didnt know what to do :-( so havent really carried on with it. now i can carry on reading it, with the programs actually working :-), it was a bit difficault to understand the programs and why they worked with it always saying \".....illegal error.....etc...etc...\" if you know what i mean.
thanks
rich
Who: znubasauresvb [.] net
When: November 25th, 2007
Says: I, just wanted to say that u probably could not do a simple trick on notepad u sound compltely clueless boasting how good u are i am a real hacker i can break some of the most complicated code i will not list any because i do not want to be comprimised i will leave it at that anyone who wants real advice comment below.
Who: gigman
When: November 25th, 2007
Says: u r full of shit try 'n' get into my comp dick ed!!!
Who: [H][A][C][K]
When: November 25th, 2007
Says: If you want to learn to hack play WoW a lot of those nerds have info under those pocket protectzorz
Who:
When: November 26th, 2007
Says: hi whooty/U24,
i have downloaded the program you have mentioned, i am still getting the same error message? at the top of the window it says that the \\\"16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem\\\" and then the following \\\"error message\\\" as i stated in the previous entry. can you help please. there must be something i am doing wrong :-(, the site that i am looking at is \\\"http://newdata.box.sk/bx/c/htm/ch01.htm\\\"
thanks
rich
Who:
When: November 26th, 2007
Says: Apparently the program should look like this;
1: #include
2:
3:
4: int main();
5: {
6: cout
Who:
When: November 26th, 2007
Says: 6: cout
Who:
When: November 26th, 2007
Says: right i seem to get the message now, i cant write programs in the comments box, the program only gives me a message saying "hello world". could you look at the site for me that i posted earlier, i dont know whether it is me typing the program in incorrectly or the program is just rubbish? another thing i am running off a proxy server (tor), but when i link to your page, pretty much all the windows in the page take about 10 mins to load sometimes being asked to reset the page, i am gussing this is to do with sercurity . is there any other way i could run a proxy server with out having the delay problem (at the moment i am running with out a proxy), this is why i can post a comment. you should see my ip. as you have said in earlier posts.
thanks
rich
thanks
rich
Who:
When: November 27th, 2007
Says: Nobody can hack my forum and I have done something so that not even the greatest hacker can touch the php.ini file as it is hidden quite deep.
What gives hackers the feeling they can take people on and win, I have always made sure my sites never get hacked and just want to say HAHAHAHAHA because you are all losers.
Who:
When: November 27th, 2007
Says: anyone here from ireland??
Who: Razor
When: November 28th, 2007
Says: Surely, there is a website that has anything those books would, if not the exact same things. do you have a recomendation on what site i may find information of the same site as books you have already recomended? im kinda far away from book stores. plz and thanx.
Who: John The Ripper is dead
When: November 28th, 2007
Says: I know you said that script kiddie tools are lame and i totally agree but im thinking of coding one is that lame and which in you opinion is best to learn perl or C++
Who: i'm not giving my damn e-mail address to a hacker
When: November 29th, 2007
Says: just a question not tring to be mean but,do you have any friends?it spounds to me like your life is a computer
Who:
When: December 1st, 2007
Says: slightl acidic but its true most people never read now a days.
Who: Zypehris i'd prefer not to give my Email out [.] [.] [.]
When: December 2nd, 2007
Says: I'm attempting to hack my school's complete server... they use Novell connections... i'd like to get past the firewall... i'm gonna attempt to set the whole school up for shutdown after 12 seconds of turnon... any tips on how to hide my ass when i do this?
Who:
When: December 2nd, 2007
Says: usqber481.199 is wuts up
Who: Jigga bang
When: December 3rd, 2007
Says: Best site ever.
Who: not going to give out this stuff
When: December 3rd, 2007
Says: im so confused. i kno i should read all that stuff but my parents would kick the crap out of me if they would even begin to think that im going to start hacking. besides i only want to kno how to do it not really use it that much. but i need to kno it might sound like the stupidest thing but what is hacking and what is required to do it? i kno a small amount about comp but im willing to learn. i kno hacking is a way to break into programs and reconfigure and other stuff like that but is it like just random codes u just type in and it autimatically gets u somwhere or do u hav to use a program that sends the codes to start the hack and is it just a random series of codes or is it a certain code people made up or is it a certain code every time? ive never really understood how to hack even with the web page and my parents will def not let me get a book about how to do it.
Who: Bob
When: December 5th, 2007
Says: U24, I have found many versions and authors for the book Teach Yourself C++ in 21 days. Is there a certain one to start with? Like there's C++6, C++ for Linux, C, are they all in the same? I just want to get started in C, but still don't know which one to choose. I am currently a first year Microcomputer Tech major (emphasis in network administration) and want to get a head start on learning to protect from hackers by thinking like them. I would love to learn...thanks for donating your time.
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from u24:
sounds like you want a networking/firewall config book more.
Who: Romans
When: December 7th, 2007
Says: I stumbled onto this site while using google. Great article first of all. Secondly how high a level of programming are you talking about? I've learned some java and also dabbled in C++. I've now taken a mild interest in hacking after reading ALL of the comments here (holy crap are there way to many!) but my last question is if im not someone who overly enjoys reading or finds I forget stuff quickly, what might I use as motivation for learning/reading all those books? I know my way very simply around a computer and steer clear of registry stuff (i guess im paranoid).....but im also always willing to have my brain challanged logically. Thanks for reading and any help there would be appreciated!
Who: MyStIc MaN
When: December 13th, 2007
Says: i am trying to learn c before C++ is that normal i mean i think that if i learn the older version first then C++ i will be on the right track to programming but i will get confused with the syntax of C when trying to program in C++
so should i learn C or C++
Who: m2
When: December 22nd, 2007
Says: Great read! Excellent information.
Not really my brand of tinkering tho, My best hacks involved a dremel :P.
Whats really fun is getting your PC speakers to pick up trucker CB radios LOL.
Anyways Cudos on the site.
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When: December 22nd, 2007
Says: Thanks for the pointers.
Who:
When: December 23rd, 2007
Says: I came across this site while searching for a book title, and I decided to read and find out what the hell was going on here. It is ridiculous the kind of questions and comments like "I dont want to read all that shit! Man, I just wanna hack!" Or like "I dont exactly know what hacking is, know some of it I know its breaking into a...". No wonder theyre always called lamers. Im not saying I know everything around here, but come on..."Do you just put any kind of random codes to hack?". I bet they came to this site because they were looking for something like Sub7 (if they know what this is). LOL. Good information and great book titles mentioned for reading. Ill be coming in here regularly.